SWAGGA MUSIC: You started researching Notorious B.I.G.’s murder case after a lawsuit was filed against the city of Los Angeles. Do you think the LAPD
SWAGGA MUSIC: You started researching Notorious B.I.G.’s murder case after a lawsuit was filed against the city of Los Angeles. Do you think the LAPD would have continued working actively in the case if they did not face that situation?
GREG KADING: Once the LAPD got out from under the threat of a multi-million dollar lawsuit, their motivation to solve the case diminished. The civil case against the department was having insurmountable problems. There was no reliable evidence to support the idea that LAPD officer David Mack was involved in a conspiracy with Suge Knight to have Biggie killed. Once Theresa Swann confessed that Suge hired her and the hitman, Wardell “”Poochie” Fouse, it was the nail in the coffin for the civil case.
SWAGGA MUSIC: Why did you leave the case?
GREG KADING: I was transferred off the case after a newspaper article came out alleging I had acted unethically in another high-profile murder case. The attorney for the murderer was desperately trying to save his client and knew that discrediting me (I was the investigator on the murder case) was his client’s only hope. I was exonerated of any misconduct, but nearly a year had passed and the LAPD had discontinued its investigation of Biggie during that time.
In hindsight, I think it was all part of a plan to put the Biggie case back on the shelf. Even though the LAPD could disprove the David Mack theory, it was still going to be a difficult and expensive prosecution against Suge Knight. The LAPD simply evaluated the situation and decided not to pro-actively continue the investigation.
SWAGGA MUSIC: After you left the case, did the LAPD continue researching?
GREG KADING: Not really. At the time I left, we had already gotten the confession from Suge Knights girlfriend, Theresa Swann. I had written a wiretap affidavit to monitor Suges phone and listen to the conversations between him and Theresa and had developed a promising strategy to obtain additional evidence. Unfortunately, I was then transferred and they assigned the case to an ineffective and inexperienced detective. He never followed through on the strategy and the whole investigation fell apart. As soon as the lawyers for Biggies mom announced they were retracting the lawsuit, the LAPD said, “O.K., we’re done with this”.
SWAGGA MUSIC: Why is Notorious B.I.G.’s case so difficult to be officially solved?
GREG KADING: It’s a combination of things. In order for the case to be “solved” in the public’s mind, someone needs to be arrested. The shooter, Poochie, is dead, Theresa Swann has prosecutorial immunity as a result of her cooperation, which just leaves Suge Knight. If Suge were arrested and charged, the primary witness and evidence against him comes from his girlfriend and baby-momma, Theresa Swann. On the witness stand she would undergo a grueling cross-examination by Suge’s lawyer. She has a considerable criminal history of her own and has sued Suge for child-support in the past. Suge’s attorney would accuse her of having a personal vendetta against Suge and point out that she has lied in the past to get fake identifications and vehicle loans, etc.
The case would also hinge strongly on how much of the history of the conflict between Suge and Puffy Combs would be allowed into evidence. If the judge allowed all the things leading up to Big’s murder in, then a jury might “‘see the big picture” and convict him. But, if the judge didn’t allow it, the jury may not be convinced Suge killed Biggie solely based on the testimony of Suge’s girlfriend.
SWAGGA MUSIC: Before you researched him, when did you hear about Notorious B.I.G’s murder for the first time?
GREG KADING: When Big was murdered in 1997, I was a gang investigator working on a federal task force. I read about the incident in the newspaper when it happened. We had all heard about Tupac’s murder 6 months earlier and the general consensus was that the two killings were probably connected. Of course, now we know that to be the case.
SWAGGA MUSIC: Did your book “Murder Rap” change your life?
GREG KADING: The same frustration still remains that prompted me to write the book in the first place. I was, and still am, convinced that if I had been left to finish the job, people would be in jail for both Tupac and Biggies murder. However, I am very happy being retired and away from the politics and bureaucracy of big city policing. I will continue to do everything in my power to help Voletta and Afeni see justice for their sons. Unfortunately, all I can really do is tell the public and fans the truth about what had happened and then leave it to them to help spread the word.
SWAGGA MUSIC: According to what you know, can you tell us what did happen the night of Notorious B.I.G’s murder?
GREG KADING: In 1995 and 1996 Suge and Puffy were at war with one another. Suge blamed Puffy for the murder of his close friend Jake Robles in Atlanta. Suge was publicly dissing Puffy and went so far as to abduct and beat one of Puffy’s associates in an attempt to find out where Puffy and his families L.A. home was. Add to this the hostility that Tupac had against all the New York people whom he felt had betrayed him (including Puffy and Big). Puffy solicited the protection of the Southside Crips to protect him and Biggie from Suge and his gang entourage when he and Bad Boy were in Los Angeles.
According to Keffe D, Puffy knew it was a “kill or be killed”, “do or die”, situation, so he asked Keffe to “get rid” of Suge and Pac. After Pac attacked Keffe D’s nephew Orlando Anderson in Las Vegas, the plan was put into effect. Once Pac was killed, a rumor started that it had been Biggie who solicited Pac’s murder (instead of Puffy). Suge was enraged over the attempt on his life and the death of Pac, so he hired a Compton gang member, who had done shootings for him in the past, to kill Big in retaliation. The gang member went to the Peterson Auto Museum, waited outside for Biggie to leave, pulled up next to him in his green Impala, and shot Big. Suge paid the guy the money he promised him and the guy left town while the police fumbled around trying to figure out what happened. Of course now Suge knows it was Puffy, not Biggie, who was responsible for Pac’s murder and has even said so in recent interviews.
SWAGGA MUSIC: You tell in your book Wardell ‘Poochie’ Fouse shot Notorious B.I.G. and Suge Knight asked him to do it. Do you still think this?
GREG KADING: This is the only explanation that is supported by evidence and reliable testimony. Every other theory is based on speculation and testimony that has been disproven. Even more evidence has surfaced since I wrote my book that continues to prove these facts.
SWAGGA MUSIC: According to what you know, can you describe Poochie and Suge knight.
GREG KADING: Suge Knight has, what I believe, is a narcissistic personality disorder. I’m not a psychiatrist, but have dealt with enough sociopaths to see the common character traits. Suge Knight is about Suge Knight. Period. He lives by a street code that is both anti-social and immoral.
Poochie was a ”live by the sword, die by the sword” product of the Compton gang culture. He valued money and reputation over human life. The world is better off without people like him in it. Same goes for Orlando Anderson.
SWAGGA MUSIC: You said Poochie passed away. Where is Suge Knight now?
GREG KADING: Poochie died 10 years ago in a gang-related shooting. Suge is a street hustler trying to survive with a broken reputation.
SWAGGA MUSIC: You tell Suge Knight’s girlfriend (alias Theresa Shawnn) told you this information. Did she or someone else related to Suge Knight contact you because of the book?
GREG KADING: No. I tried to get her to meet with Voletta Wallace and offer her apologies. Voletta had agreed and said she would extend her hand of forgiveness if Theresa publicly apologized. Theresa Swann refused.
SWAGGA MUSIC: You say in the book the name of many gang men. Are you scared of possible threats?
GREG KADING: No, I would only be worried if I had lied about someone. Everyone I mention in the book knows I am telling the truth.
SWAGGA MUSIC: How important was the involvement of Crips and Bloods gangs’ members in the case?
GREG KADING: Very important. Both Biggie and Tupac were killed by active, violent gang members. These groups were directly attached to both Suge and Puffy as their security details.
SWAGGA MUSIC: You are working in a documentary now. What will we find in it?
GREG KADING: It will weave together the history of violence that led up to the murders and explain why so many of the competing theories are nonsense. The film will feature interviews with people who’ve never spoken about the case before and provide all the documentary evidence so the audience can rest assured it is true.
SWAGGA MUSIC: What people will be interviewed in the documentary?
GREG KADING: Have to wait and see
SWAGGA MUSIC: You said also Tupac’s murder case will be explained in the documentary. Do you still think Baby Lane shot Tupac and Diddy hired him to do it?
GREG KADING: The documentary will cover both murders since they are connected to one another. All the evidence proving Baby Lane as Tupac’s shooter will be featured.
SWAGGA MUSIC: Will we hear Baby Lane’s uncle, Keffe D., confession in the documentary?
GREG KADING: Yes.
SWAGGA MUSIC: When will it be ready?
GREG KADING: Fall 2013
SWAGGA MUSIC: Rapper Rick Ross faced a shooting when he was driving after his birthday party in Miami some weeks ago. Do you think something like the Notorious B.I.G. or Tupac’s cases could happen in the hip hop industry now?
GREG KADING: The hip-hop industry faces a double-edged sword. The music is popular because it deals with street life and street life issues. As long as there is a criminal element in the industry, there will be a risk of criminal activity. James “Jimmy Henchman” Rosemond is a perfect example. A criminal mentality brings criminal activity, whether its drugs, extortion, or murder.
SWAGGA MUSIC: What would you tell Rick Ross?
GREG KADING: Break the cycle. Put your ego aside. Don’t be another Suge Knight.